Dec 14, 2009

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence

GodFoot

Then again...
Listening to Richard Dawkins troubles me and gives me colic. It troubles me because the man complains and complains that people who believe in God, or a god, are delusional. He keeps hammering the issue year after year, right around the Holidays. He keeps saying that religious people are crazy. To him and others, religion is the root of all evil.

Now, it troubles me to hear atheists scientists giving chats about religion because it troubles me to hear religious authorities give chats about science. It just doesn't make sense to hear someone proclaim themselves the authority on something when are, quite clearly, not such an authority. Richard Dawkins is no one to tell me, or anyone, what not to believe in.

There was a video posted over at Respectful Insolence where a comedian rants in a nine-minute poem about "skepticism". I commented that I was confused by "skepticism" equaling "atheism". Another commented replied:
Pretty much, yeah, unless you can find a signature on a fjord somewhere.
Really? There needs to be a signature from God on a fjord in order to believe in God. Absence of evidence is, in this case, evidence of absence. This also gives me colic.

I'm not troubled because I am a religious kind of guy, or because I believe in the existence of God. (To me, the fjord IS the signature, and so is DNA.) I'm troubled because that kind of thinking where, because you can't see it, touch it, taste it, or feel it, then it must not exist, is troubling. Think about it. It was the same way that so many for so long felt about bacteria, antibiotics, viruses, and even radiation. And it was the scientists' jobs to prove that absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. (Though they did it with evidence.)

I'm not calling for a large-scale exercise whereby we test for the existence of God. It would be a waste of time. (When you do something and no one notices, then you did it right. God is perfect, so...)

I'm calling for an end of the hostilities between the groups who completely disregard the existence of a higher power and preach about it and the groups who believe in a higher power and believe that this higher power couldn't have possibly given us the ability to do things with science. It's getting mean, folks, and nothing good could come of it.

I mean, yes, Richard Dawkins can be troubled by those who disregard science because of some weirdo interpretation of their religion, but to say that people should just outright give it all up? Really?

Personally, the knowledge in my heart that there is a God, that strange things can and will happen, and I am nothing compared to the known universe when it comes to knowledge of all things... All of that is comforting. I like knowing that I'm not in control and that God created a universe that I will never really touch. I like feeling small and limited because, at the very least, my dreams are not limited. And those dreams allow me to dream up things that people on the opposite spectrum don't even imagine because they deem them impossible.

It's good to know that impossible is nothing.

Not a sermon, just a thought.

10 Opinions:

Yannis said...

The email's yannanth@googlemail.com

I'd like to comment on this by saying that I respect your views, but I've always felt as an atheist that religion is fine as long as it does what it is meant to. To find that, we need to go around 1500 years back. These were lawless times when people commited acts of war for the hell of it. These things eventually led to the creation of Christianity and other religions, because people were still so called 'pagans' and would hang someone for not believing in their tribal ways. That's a bad example of religion. What I'm saying is, religion is really a set of rules manipulated in a way so the people that lived not in a form of civilisation could follow this code to living like a civilised man. And that, ultimately is what has been the downfall of religion(so far), that atheists can now instead opt out to not follow the Ten Commandments, but the Human Rights Charter. And so, I want to summarize by saying that,
-first, I do not plan to convert you. Just listen and you might pick up on atheism
-second, there is really no evidence to support the bible's claims. For example, the Greek Orthodox bible for example(not sure about the Catholic bible, because let's just say I'm not from those parts of the world), says that Jesus was in fact, an incredibly common name for babies born in December(not called December back then), so there really is no evidence to support these claims from Roman logs of 'Jesus's' crucifixation that the Jesus that was crucified was THE Jesus. Perhaps it was a Life of Brian sort of situation. We will never know, but we already know quite a bit about how the universe was formed.
-third, you are a scientist. You know everyone can be a dreamer, either by a natural proccess or by drugs. What I mean by is, do not deem people like me unable to think of such things. I am an avid video gamer and I enjoy being thrown onto fantasy worlds, purely for the reason of something away from the harsh reality. It's all in our human nature.
-and finally, if you decide to tak up our cause, give Humanism a shot. You will have a good ride. I believe Humanism is a good step before atheism/agnosticism. Secular Humanism is following a simple, unrestrictive, but above all civilised set of rules without believing. Look up the Wikipedia page. I promise you you will be relieved if you lose your faith and be a free spirit, much like a teenager who just doesn't care. But, thankfully, most of us are past that stage now.

Thanks,
Yannis

Pedro Soares said...

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Ren said...

Hi, Pedro. Thanks for the comments. I'm a full-time Epidemiologist, so it takes some time between posts, but I do plan on keeping up.

Drop me an e-mail at rfnajera [at] epiren [dot] com if you still need the Wave invite. (Offer open only to Pedro).

Ren said...

@Yannis: Actually, there is plenty of archaelogical, historical, and literature-based evidence to the existence of Jesus. See, he wasn't just called Jesus. He was Jesus of Nazareth. He had a following in the thousands. Thousands saw him crucified and thousands more saw him afterward. The manner in which he was revived from the cross is where the faith comes in, because, as you and I know, resurrection is one of those things that only happens once in... well, once in a long while.

At any rate, thanks for your suggestions. I find no conflicts in being a scientist and being a Christian. Again, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, and even God must follow the rules of physics. Have a good one!

Prabhavati said...

I came here in hope of a google wave invitation.
Having said that,Creation myths are there in all religions. Personally, I don't find being a Hindu and believing in science as conflicting. One wise man, a scientist, once told me that myths are not to be taken literally. Relegion has its purpose, to regulate society and keep people wary of doing bad things to others.

Mike Gamble said...

I agree.

Mike said...

I came here looking for a wave invation, but I found your posts very interesting. While we certainly don't sare the same religious views, I do see your points.

my email is herdes222[at]gmail.com if you still have wave invites.

Thanks!

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Andrés said...

Great post." The truth will set us free"... when the day comes.

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